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fishy1

Deer snaring

How exactly would one go about snaring red deer, purely out of interest of course?

I was reckoning on steel cable anchored to a good tree, 4mm cable should do it right?  Loop size?  What height do I set the loop at?  

Alternatively, what else could I use to catch deer?  Firearms and bowhunting are not options.  I would prefer not to deadfall as if someone stubled through by accident, it would be terrible.  I heard a story of some guy using custard pies on roads and letting traffic hit them, irresponsible I know, but if custard pies attract them then they could be attracted and netted or something.
dugaboy

mate dont take this the wrong way  but this is meant for a laugh  aye    as we are watched  all the time by the goodies in two shoes  this reallly  is not he place  to be looking for answers  to trapping  problems   thats a question  that the trolls  might be aasking ?? if its a serious  question  then theres other places to go  cheers
fishy1

OK dugaboy, what other places?  PM's?  Other forums?
Benc

Why is a firearm not an option?  It's not expensive to buy anyway, most people round here would be happy to get £1/lb for venison.  And as for custard pies.....
dugaboy

for educatioanal use only try searching for Ragner Benson his books or video cheers
fish

in ancient times a leg hold trap would have been used , they have been found preserved in bogs and have been dated back to far beyond the stone age.
 ille try and find a link , but basically it was a log hollowed and a willow stick used as a spring in the trap , held open with a smaller stick. when the deer placed its feet in it would dislodge the smaller stick and the willow would grip the foot . all though these traps varied in size from 1 -  5 feet in length  , set on a game trail generally the principle was that it would slow the deer down to the extent that it could be caught .  the good thing about this trap was that game could be released unharmed if it was too small or in calf.
moocher

become a dogwalker that specialises in american bulldogs or ridgebacks and exercise them in the fields.
fishy1

I looked up that ragnar benson fellow, one of his books looked interesting, "survival poaching."  Anyone got a copy of it, is it full of guns and suchlike?  I couldn't see videos of his anywhere.

Oh, firearms are out as I cannot get a FAC and I'd not be comfortable without one.  Venison is fairly cheap aye, but it's always better when you catch it yourself.

Fish, that trap sounds interesting, I'd imagine you have to watch it all the time though?

Unfortunately my dog is not fast enough for deer and I cannot get another one.

Thanks everyone for your help.
dugaboy

mate might have a copy of that book somewhere if it aint been borrowed  if so will let you know cheers
fish

"Fish, that trap sounds interesting, I'd imagine you have to watch it all the time though? "

nope , thats the beauty of them . the so impedes the deer that it wont be far and certainly easy to track , any one finding one wouldn't have a clue what it was!
fish

fishy1

Fish, that is a very interesting trap.  

I have an idea of something similar, except fill the inside with snares instead of relying on a springy stick.  This way, there is no way the deer would pull it's leg out.  Plus, the way I understand your trap, if the deer steps on the wrong side of the stick, it will not be trapped.  

Oh, do you set the trap parallel or perpendicular to the game trail?


Thanks for seeing what it's like dugaboy.  Just let me know if you think it's worth getting.
dugaboy

mate if you want I can copy some pages and mail email  or fax  to you  only for teaching purposes  of course  if you can get a copy  it wont be wasted  money cheers
fishy1

Dugaboy, I have sent you a pm with my email address, I want it purely for teaching purposes of course.

Thanks alot.
gonehunting

i would aggree ridgebacks would work or american dogs.I have a few RR and a 1/2 cross grey.Point and fire  stuff.Snares would work in the old days,but i dont think for red cause the hinds and the stags snare size antlers vs no antlers it would be knocked out of its set site.All depends on the time off year.I read some where in an old book peps caught roe deer by feeding them with apples in a ride in a forest.

Turns out they feed the ride for a few days and then in the place where they done this ,the  deer  started feeding , then they put a big stake in the ground and added a steel trace like you use for fishing big game fish and then added a  no1 sea trebble through a small apple.Turns out in the book deer eat small apples very quick and sometimes tug at them as if they were on a tree.Well you can guess how they caught them.

That book was printed in /Roman times i think no sure
directdrive

Snaring

Just as a bit of info.  Go to some of the sites in the U.S. for snares and sets.  Although it is illegal in the U.S. to snare a deer (many snares have "deer stoppers" on them) in a survival situation, I wouldn't hesitate to do so.  You have to find a well used deer trail (look for droppings and tracks) and set the snare on the trail.   Same is true for smaller game as well.  There are also a number of survival sites where you can see the techniques.  Go to:
www.therangerdigest.com and rick tscherne has it down pat.
Good Luck
fish

thanks for the link mate!
Tidal_wear

dugaboy

big nets for that fella   got a video of pygmiys netting deer  trapping them  then keeping them for up to 2 months  till as and when required    used to drive deer in EU  to nets  then posh gits got to shoot them    never understood that part  
Tidal_wear

dugaboy

glad to see things have  progessed    
Tidal_wear

kent taxidermist

as to not posting things on the forum

this is a POACHING FORUM that is the beauty of it

and my advise is that hook and lines arnt just good for fish :)
silenthunter

your right there kt good for pheasants as well lol fishing line to a peg stuck in ground with loops running off when the pheasant eats his way up to the last grain he cant get a way all you got to do then is walk up neck him and happy days all the best sh
Salix

silenthunter wrote:
your right there kt good for pheasants as well lol fishing line to a peg stuck in ground with loops running off when the pheasant eats his way up to the last grain he cant get a way all you got to do then is walk up neck him and happy days all the best sh


How then do you get the hooks out.............or am i just stupid  

Salix
death stretch

a tip i was given many years ago about setting snares was to get a handfull of grass and rub all over the snare to get rid of any human scent  good luck
dog on

death stretch wrote:
a tip i was given many years ago about setting snares was to get a handfull of grass and rub all over the snare to get rid of any human scent  good luck
one better than this is light a fire with wood ,and leave any wire to be used in the hot embers it gets rid of any scent ,just remember to use gloves when making and seting snairs other wise it will all be for nothing. or make them first and then put them in the embers.
dog on

silenthunter wrote:
your right there kt good for pheasants as well lol fishing line to a peg stuck in ground with loops running off when the pheasant eats his way up to the last grain he cant get a way all you got to do then is walk up neck him and happy days all the best sh
another way for phesants that will give you a good laugh as well is plastic or paper  cups ,put one in a hole in the ground just slightly bigger than the cup  put some glue around the inside of the cup then put some corn in the cup ,the phesant will get its feathers stuck to the cup and the cup stuck  on its head  cant see where it is going you can find them easy and just pick them up  ,done this years ago with a lot of cups near a phesant pen just to let a keeper know that if i got any stick rabbiting i could soon turn to phesants he laughed about it as well .
hare basher

i like the sound of the cups could get me some slack hahah
yoggerman

have heard of a few similar me granfer used to tell usfishing hooks on line tied to trees with corn  or a raisin on the hook, when swallowd it would get em in the throat........ and cut out a cone shape from a semi-circle of card, and smear with honey in the inside and lead a trail of corn to it........ also make live catch trap from making a fence going round and round like swirl . covered of course ,and the pheasant would follow the trail of corn to the centre and then couldnt get  out...

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