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skylerpe

hi, I am from Canada,can I post some hunting image here?

hi, I am from Canada,can I post some pheasants hunted with dankun  here?
Adam

You forgot to say "Eh?" eh?
Monkeyboab

Yeah but probably best in slingshot hunting.

Rob
skylerpe

a pheasant

incredible powerful, may because the tubes are loose and so nothing stops their momentum
skylerpe

the rabbit(not by me)

got some images at google.com


fish

sounds like another spammer from dankun company again. still we are all on the same side eh!

btw they are less than half the power of the hunter catapult!
King_Arthur

fish wrote:
sounds like another spammer from dankun(hunter catapults are stronger and cheaper!) company again. still we are all on the same side eh!

btw they are less than half the power of the hunter catapult!


i don't believe, as i said him to make more publicity he said  he appreciate more the feedback from his customers

and with the right bands, a d@nkung can be powerful too....

but as you said, we are all on the same side ;)
JoergS

With the hunter bands, the dankun will be just as powerful as the hunter catapult. It is awkward to tie them, though, as the dankun is made for tubular bands, but in general there are ways to attach flat bands to it, too.

But the other advantage of the hunter catapult is the low fork. This way, the wrist strain is much reduced. This means more accuracy and also more power, ultimately.

The hunter is also made out of high quality multiplex wood, which makes it much lighter than the steel dankungs.

Jörg
King_Arthur

on the above illustrated model, the fork is 2 cm over the resting point , so lower is not possible without getting danger to hit yourself ;)

and i don't know how you think, but for my opinion,  stainless steel is the better material for a slingshot(frame)
the weight is about 190 gram, that is not too much ( for me )
JoergS

For a hunter, the lighter, the better. Steel is nice and I like it, too, but the multiplex is very solid as well.

I have ordered a dankun, too, and as soon as it is here. The Slingshot Channel will feature a direct comparison, including a ballistic gelatin test. Then we will see.

Jörg
Tyla

Horses for courses, if everyone liked the same thing then it would be a boring world! i've shot neither but use homemade versions of each to good effect!

i would be more than happy to carry out an independant test as long as i could keep the test models!!! lol
fish

ime up for it ,and the models must be the basic as sold to the customer spec and both shooting .440 caliber lead shot.preferably a chronometer would figure somewhere n the evaluation of course!
King_Arthur

Quote:
When 4-strand 18*42 or 17*45 rubber band used, the 6-mm ammo's initial velocity is 101m / second
,ie, 333 fps


thats a pretty good speed, of course with heavier ammo it will not be possibile

but with stronger rubber (8  strand rubberbands or the 4/6 mm tube ) you have of course a good hunting setup
gtavares

A dankun slingshot will be stronger than Hunters Catty only if him are with black thera bands....
King_Arthur

you know that china style bands are a loop, so you have 4 bands to draw ....

with thera tube black thats overkill for normal target shooting, and also for hunting, more than the yellow thera tube is needless
JoergS

I do like the chinese method as it has two advantages:

1. Easy band change
2. Long band life

But when it comes to power, my chrony tests clearly show that the Thera Band Gold beats the tubes, by a large margin.

I actually shoot the Thera Tube green in my chinese designs, comfortable and strong. But if you use wide and tapered Thera Band Gold, you simply have more power and less draw weight.

Regards


Jörg
Adam

King_Arthur wrote:
Quote:
When 4-strand 18*42 or 17*45 rubber band used, the 6-mm ammo's initial velocity is 101m / second
,ie, 333 fps


thats a pretty good speed, of course with heavier ammo it will not be possibile

but with stronger rubber (8  strand rubberbands or the 4/6 mm tube ) you have of course a good hunting setup


Interesting figures - where did they come from and how were they tested?

Cheers,
skylerpe

fish wrote:
sounds like another spammer from dankun(hunter catapults are more powerfull!) company again. still we are all on the same side eh!

btw they are less than half the power of the hunter catapult!


Sorry. if it violate the rule of forum ,please delete the images all.
skylerpe

JoergS wrote:
I do like the chinese method as it has two advantages:

1. Easy band change
2. Long band life

But when it comes to power, my chrony tests clearly show that the Thera Band Gold beats the tubes, by a large margin.

I actually shoot the Thera Tube green in my chinese designs, comfortable and strong. But if you use wide and tapered Thera Band Gold, you simply have more power and less draw weight.

Regards


Jörg



Unlike the rubber band all comes from the Thera company.  I think there are more than tens of companies manufacturing the slingshot rubber tube in China.  Some of them really have poor quality .  But some of them  have excellent performance.  

I draw the 14 cm to 82 cm, the speed is incredible.  the ammo goes through the head of the pheasant(I will show the video later). I think it may be comparable to Thera golden band.
JoergS

I'd be surprised by that.

Thera Band Gold has lots of power.

My tests with ballistic gelatin and real meat (leg of lamb) show that even a thcik lead or steel ball (I used 20 mm) will fly right through about 20 cm of certified ballistic gelatin (tissue like).

I shot through a thick piece of leg of lamb and the bullet crushed the thighbone, nestled itself right in the middle of it.

That requires a lot more power than shooting a .44 lead ball through the head of a pheasant. Birds have very lightweight, sponge like bones that do not have a lot of resistance.

But it is possible that this rubber has equal power! Never say never. I guess we will have to wait for a direct comparison. Should be interesting!

Jörg
Tyla

So, fish is up for it but are the dankun contingent?!?!?!?

i promise a genuine comparison. Dont have a chrono so i'll leave the scientific stuff to joerg but will do accuracy comparison (just as important i think) and see what each can produce while mouching about?!?!?

i would also be interested in trying the hunter bands on a modified dankun frame, im sure theres something about the free moving bands that helps my accuracy?
skylerpe

one of my finding of the performance is that the elastic's performance decreases significantly if you aim too long with the full draw.


So I pull draw the 14 cm to 82 cm and release it almost without stop.  Intuitive shot,not very accurately but I enjoy it.

Releasing the pouch at the same time of  pushing the slingshot  forward also increases the velocity dramatically( release when the elastic is at the peak and still be stretching ).  But that's sort of dangerous.

Regards
JoergS

Yes, rubber tires out if you keep it drawn out. That is the reason why slingshot rifles make little sense.

But a few seconds should not make a big difference.

The "flipstyle" technique works, but my tests show no big power increase. The biggest plus of that style is that you can use real low forks (even no fork at all, see this video of mine:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l4iVJkT-Ycg

Jörg
skylerpe

couldn't agree with any more.
Slingshot gun or rifle makes little sense.

I've found a very practical use of  The "flipstyle" technique, when used actively,it makes the ammo fly much more straight ,which make big difference to long-distance  aiming and shooting.  The ammo can fly directly to the rabbit or other object 55 yards away when you use the 'flipstyle 'actively . Otherwise the ammo would drop towards the ground obviously rather than to the object.

That makes the 'flipstyle' very useful for hunting.


JoergS wrote:
Yes, rubber tires out if you keep it drawn out. That is the reason why slingshot rifles make little sense.

But a few seconds should not make a big difference.

The "flipstyle" technique works, but my tests show no big power increase. The biggest plus of that style is that you can use real low forks (even no fork at all, see this video of mine:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l4iVJkT-Ycg

Jörg
statikpunk

One thing on the tube and theraband comparison that no one has brought up and is verry important for my choice of band material is smoothness.

I find that tapered theraband shoots much more smoothly than any tube band (for me anyway)  and that translates into accuracy..and accuracy is more important than raw speed for me even if Im hunting.

just my two bits  
smitty

Will you test it against the Fish hunter? How can you compare dankungs (see how I got around that power crap) to Fish's hunter ? Just the way they are sent to the customer I guess? Can't wait to see another new video!
Tyla

i was planning to compare them by having a little target shooting session with each and then decide which i prefer. Nothing scientific, just my unbiased opinion!

Dosent look like its going to happen now anyway!

i dont know what video your talking about, i havent even got my head around posting pics on here yet?

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