Not sure if you've seen this but

dirtydog21 · Not sure if you've seen this but

This has got to be the ultimate in discreet nocturnal animal collection gathering devices, for those not living in the UK that is...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NshtEe_TsRA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-6LxKfpAPYA&feature=channel

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QyxjnDNHW7Y&feature=channel

I'm sure it'll get a few minds racing.

dirtydog21

fish

yep he is a ledgend!

maggot

thats major

bhawk

does anyone know the legality of using a "slingshot bow" in the UK, if not im happy to look it up, as even the arrows with dumb dumbs on dont have a pointy end and from what i remember of the bow legislation a bow relies on using the force of the limbs as the propellant, thereby removing catties from any possible classification as a bow even though itll shoot arrows.

If i get no replies ill do some digging and post a thread with the results....
Just remember anything that doesnt have a law made about it is LEGAL....heres hoping

bhawk

ok first update remembering that in law "if it is not prohibited, it is allowed" the WCA '81 as ammended '94 (ammendment useless but just so you feel more secure

) states clearly that its prohibited to kill via "any self-locking snare, whether or not of such a nature or so placed as aforesaid, any bow or cross-bow or any explosive other than ammunition for a firearm"

Plain and simple NO self locking snares or any normal snares that dont "free-run", NO BOWS*, NO CROSS-BOWS* or any explosives apart from ammo from a gun.

Now from what i remember they slingshot "bow" is not a bow as i said before, thats the point i shall research further and as for crossbow it does not lock and fire with a trigger and again same point as the bow regarding the limbs.....

Also as a second point on arrows you could even carry them around as long as you remove the head during transport (all mine screw on so no probs

) ergo no long pointy objects over 3 inch

Lucky i have insomnia folks im gonna research this all night!

Edit: Also to point out this is for England and Wales only.... Sorry scots ill get onto you later

bhawk

Right cant find any mention of arrows specifically thank god. Also been looking in my good ol' books, any statute that has any wording that has no set legal definition or in which the wording comes into question it is to be read as in plain english using english dictionaries.
BOW
a flexible strip of wood or other material, bent by a string stretched between its ends, for shooting arrows.
so the only mention of arrows being in the dictionary in reference to a tool which a catapult cannot be classified as. Whilst this sound over the top to many it is needed for our own sake....id rather have knowledge of law than be banged up

.

Now more importantly is if we could find anyone using this method either going back 80-90 years or even better to the reign of king richard 1st. Due to law of custom, although it is down to any prosecution to disprove it rather than us proving it.
Law of custom states if something is done within either of the set periods it is allowed unless expressly prohibited by statute. If we claimed custom before statute it supercedes any statute they bring in! ergo preserving our right to hunt by this method

wabbiter

shit, once you get your teeth into something you really go for it , well done mate

....mack

bhawk

mr=punch

Hi

Whilst checking out the legalitys of this type of catty I think you should look up dutch arrows as they are launched by a string not a bow and used correctly can be lethal. That would point you in the right direction of arrow legality also the law would probably go down the line of a mini spear, spears being illegal to hunt with in the UK.

You know as well as I do that the law will define as it likes and make a test case that will become statute law and in this time we live in I bet a penny to a pound they win.

I wouldn't want to be a test case.
good luck and well done for the study
punch

bhawk

bhawk

Looking into the deer act '63 you are allowed to take deer with arrow as long as you have permission and can prove it is to prevent damage to crops etc (same as normal in other words)
Although unfortunately in the later Deer Act '91 it seems they have removed the exceptions allowing "any arrow, spear or similar missile"

So deer are out of the question, unless you somehow managed to get a license from the state allowing the taking of deer with such a device

As for rabbits it seems it may well be possible.
First thought on this is that rabbit shooting would require dumb dumbs, removing the "pointy end" that coppers might not like.
As of yet i cant see any proof that the catapult adapted for missile projection is illegal and i have scoured high and low. Couple more days and i'll feel sure. I'll also bring up the subject with a lawyer friend of mine and an ex-copper i know, see what their views are on it.

The only thing i can find is concerning the carrying of it as possibly being an offensive weapon but i still cant see any proof of this, easiest way around this i should think would be to carry it as a catapult through streets with the arrows detached of dumb dumbs till in the field, even that may not be necessary.
Basically so far common sense approach to stay safe, dont try shooting folk in the street.