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PostPosted: Sun May 11, 2008 5:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

wouldnt a carp fishing bait boat do the job?
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PostPosted: Sun May 11, 2008 6:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nope,tried one years back fish old bean,couldnt get any length of net on it whatsoever,few yards at the most,it didnt have the capacity  
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PostPosted: Sun May 11, 2008 9:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gareth, that sounds great, but how do you avoid tangles when getting the longline off the reel?
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PostPosted: Sun May 11, 2008 10:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's the trick.......................

The line is not peeling from the shore based reels.

The line is stripping from the two fixed spool reel spools that I have fitted to the torpedeo itself.

The torpedeo recovery line i have used is 15lb B.S. mono treated with silicone floatant. The Longline is 50lb B.S. sea fishing mono, that sinks.

The long line passes through a ledger run ring that has been glued to a small round fridge magnet, that sits on a small piece of steel at the rear of the torpedeo. When the first longline weight hits the ring, it falls off the steel, and goes down with the weight.

One of the design errors so far highlighted is the ring for the torpedeo recovery line. This is a steel screw in type, and needs to be the magnetic type also. Then  the recovery line can run down the side of the torpedeo to a fixed ring at the prow. Bringing her back in stern first was not the most efficent way, with the damn thing tracking all over the place
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PostPosted: Sun May 11, 2008 10:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gareth wrote:
That's the trick.......................

The line is not peeling from the shore based reels.

The line is stripping from the two fixed spool reel spools that I have fitted to the torpedeo itself.

The torpedeo recovery line i have used is 15lb B.S. mono treated with silicone floatant. The Longline is 50lb B.S. sea fishing mono, that sinks.

The long line passes through a ledger run ring that has been glued to a small round fridge magnet, that sits on a small piece of steel at the rear of the torpedeo. When the first longline weight hits the ring, it falls off the steel, and goes down with the weight.

One of the design errors so far highlighted is the ring for the torpedeo recovery line. This is a steel screw in type, and needs to be the magnetic type also. Then  the recovery line can run down the side of the torpedeo to a fixed ring at the prow. Bringing her back in stern first was not the most efficent way, with the damn thing tracking all over the place


I understand the line is fed out from two reels on the torpedo.  What I don't understand is how you get the longline, with hooks and weights attached, off the reel and into the water.  I'm not exactly sure what a run ring is, is it basically just a swivel that's free to move up the line?

And if the run ring falls off the torpedo at the 1st weight, surely you'd need as many run rings as their are hooks?
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PostPosted: Sun May 11, 2008 10:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No!

I am not using reels on the torpedeo. Just the detachable spools from two fixed spool reels.

the longlines shore/recovery line is wound onto the spools, but not the the dropper line.

The spools have a tag left, which is atttached to the dropped line.
the spools are just temporary storage devices. The line is not tied to the spool, as you would when using the reel on a rod.
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PostPosted: Sun May 11, 2008 11:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry, I should have said spool.

But I still don't understand, where does the dropper line go if not on the spool?

Thanks for your help, I will understand it eventually I'm sure.
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PostPosted: Mon May 12, 2008 12:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'll do a schematic layout sketch of how it works and post it tomorrow.

Note: I said schematic..... ..... ...... .....  Not  proper technical drawings or photos just yet ...... ..... .... ...... it's still a secret.
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PostPosted: Mon May 12, 2008 12:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tidal_wear wrote:
I wonder how many mackerel feathers you could take out with one?Those alveys are ugly looking reals,got a few for nowt years ago,used to be good for wrecking though  
How did the trial go?  


My rubber band powered torpedeo took 200 metres of line out across whittlingham broad this afternoon. At 150 metres out, it started dropping the weighted secton of the longline (with qty 5 off), 1/2 oz Wye weights at 10 metre intervals.  It's got a slight tracking problem at the moment though, as goes off a fair bit to one side, especially when reeling it in. I need to be able to swing the torpedeo around, and bring it in bow first rather than stern first.

Then the F'kin broads authority launch appeared and wanted to know what I was up to............................... Hehehehe I'd already dropped the test longline, albeit without any dropper paternoster links and hooks
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PostPosted: Mon May 12, 2008 8:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Should have told them you were undertaking important R&D trials for Thames Valley Fisheries Dept(me)  


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