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lurcherkid
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 09, 2009 4:04 pm    Post subject: phesant Reply with quote

i was ust out walking the feaids with my dogs and my bro and mum the ess flushd a gd few female phesand then they all flew away so we kept wanlking when ther was some long grass and brambels he markd up so did the jrt me and my bro thought it will just be a rabbit or ran and kept walking then we heard swuaking and me ess had a phesand in his mouth and would not let go amd my mum was going raj at me cazz my ess just killd a phesand and ther was blood all aver his face

i know people will go mad at me for puting thes thred up but i am wanting help on how to stop him from being hard mouthd
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 09, 2009 4:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

well isit a retriever or a lurcher?
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 09, 2009 4:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hes am english springer spaniel bet hes very hard mouthd and chases everything apart from small dos and cats
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 09, 2009 8:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

lurcher kid

A few questions if you dont mind?

How old is the dog?
Does he do the same with rabbits/rats/squirrels?
Have you shot things and let him retreive/kill them?
Is he obediant besides being hard mouthed?
Has anything ever bit him ie squirrel/rat?
Have you got a mate with a well trained spaniel that retreives?
And how old are you?
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 09, 2009 8:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey, so he pegged a bird; should be seen as a plus unless you are looking at working him on shoots.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 10, 2009 6:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i would never trust him on shoots all he wants to do is chase rabbit rat fox birds deer or flush then and try to kill them hes not obident and id 4 years old he also pulls on a leash
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 10, 2009 7:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

lurcherkid

It sounds like your dog has been given to much slack,at 4 years old it would take a real expert to do much with him imo,the only thing i could say is try to start again with the basics and be firm and make everybody in your family be firm with him.

Shame is he sounds like the kind of Spaniel that could be a very good dog with all that drive in him,but dont give up on him,some of the police sniffer dog trainers and army bomb disposal trainers turn dogs like him into very well trained animals so its not impossible.

The first thing i would tackle would be the lead pulling because off the lead you wont get a chance,you need to be able to stamp some disipline on him when he cant get away from you and when hes used to doing as hes told on the lead hes more likely to obey off the lead.
Dont just feed him either,make him sit before you will give him his food,if he wont sit dont feed him,it wont take long.
If you dont know how to teach the basics im sure plenty of people on here will have some good advice,but this should really be in the dog section,atb tyke
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 10, 2009 8:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

he can sit and wate for food also weve had the omb desposial and sniffer dog team out as they were wanting him but when they came to try him out it was a windy day so he was chasing the leve up and down the garden and we lost him for 6 hourss one day chasing a deer and 2 hours chasing a blacktip rabbit across stubbel hes not fast be hes got lots of stamana
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 11, 2009 9:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I dont really like the idea of electric collars,but in your dogs case it might be the only way to go?

Do you know anyone local to you who is good with dogs and willing to help you with him?
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 11, 2009 5:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

no we did take him to dog classes but the dog traner person pickd my dog up and threw him across the big dog traing hall so we never went back


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